The Lawyer’s Escape Pod
Heather Eastwood leaves practice to teach high school

Heather Eastwood leaves practice to teach high school

September 21, 2021

Heather Eastwood is a public interest lawyer (with a brief detour into BigLaw) who found her long-term calling teaching public high school. 

In today’s episode, we discuss:

  • Heather came out of college feeling adrift without a clear path to follow
  • She went to law school somewhat on a whim, because it was at least an extension of learning
  • Heather ended up working for legal aid in Hawaii
  • Her best professional experience was based on a highly collaborative environment
  • Heather decided to move to the Bay Area and ended up having to take a firm job 
  • She felt deeply misaligned doing big corporate work
  • Heather quit from her honeymoon
  • She went back to the core of what she enjoyed in previous roles and her core values
  • Heather decided to teach high school, and has been happily doing it for a decade
  • The best piece of advice she ever got was “you are never stuck; you always have choices”

 

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Rachel Coll leaves practice to become a life coach

Rachel Coll leaves practice to become a life coach

September 15, 2021

Rachel Coll is a lawyer turned life coach. Although Rachel actually largely enjoyed practicing, she allowed herself to evolve and follow the threads that interested her. She ultimately felt called to get into coaching. It did require pushing through some discomfort and external judgment around the decision, but she has now built a successful full-time practice.

In this episode we discuss:

  • Rachel largely enjoyed her practice first as a public prosecutor, then at the Board of Elections 
  • Rachel came to a place in her personal life where she hired a life coach, and that ended up changing her trajectory 
  • Rachel became a certified life coach on the side 
  • She didn’t leave law because she didn’t enjoy practice, but because she felt drawn more strongly to something else
  • Although other people warned her otherwise, she always felt she could go back to law after coaching
  • Rachel’s practice has evolved from relationship coaching for lawyers to more general practice around embracing your full self and owning it
  • You don’t have to have a huge problem or official diagnosis to justify getting help
  • Trust if you’re called to something that it’s worth pursuing

 

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You can find Rachel on…

https://www.rachelcollcoaching.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/rachel-coll-coaching/about/

https://www.instagram.com/rachelelizabethcoll/

 

David Johnson Shows Us How Use Design Thinking to Make Fulfilling Career Shifts

David Johnson Shows Us How Use Design Thinking to Make Fulfilling Career Shifts

September 7, 2021

David Johnson is a lawyer, writer and professor at Stanford Law School. He started his career working in house at tech companies, received a JSM in Law, Science, and Technology and now (among other things) teaches a course on design thinking as applied to negotiations at Stanford Law. Dave talks to us first about how he got into academia outside the tenure-track, and gives us some great tips around finding adjunct professor positions. Then Dave lays out the framework for using Design Thinking to help move you towards a fulfilling career shift.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • How David got into academia as non-tenure track professor
  • Tips on getting into adjunct teaching 
  • David started an online course (MOOC) that ended up getting licensed to Microsoft
  • If you want to do something, don’t think too hard about where it’s taking you. Just do it.
  • Specific tips on applying design thinking to career and personal development
  • The importance of enduring, engaging, and embracing ambiguity 
  • Bill Gates’ quote: “People overestimate what they can do in 1 year, but underestimate what they can do in 10 years”

 

You can find David Johnson on . . .

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/djohnsonllc/

Blog: https://climate-activist.com/

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The 5 Step Lawyer’s Escape Plan Framework

The 5 Step Lawyer’s Escape Plan Framework

June 15, 2021

Today’s episode is the audio from the webinar I hosted last week, The 5-Step Lawyer’s Escape Plan. It walks you through the roadmap that will take you from stuck and uninspired to having clarity and a plan.

 

The 8-week Lawyer’s Escape Plan group program begins next week, so if you’re interested in joining us, sign up before doors close on Friday, June 18 at midnight EDT!

 

8-Week Group Program: https://pages.megansmiley.com/lawyersescapeplan

 

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Free Webinar: 5-Step Lawyer’s Escape Plan

Free Webinar: 5-Step Lawyer’s Escape Plan

June 8, 2021

On Thursday, June 10th at 7:30pm EDT, I'll be hosting a free live webinar. A replay will also be available.

 

I'll be walking you through the 5-Step Lawyer's Escape framework that you can follow to go from stuck and uninspired to confident and planning your move.

 

Sign up for the free webinar here: https://pages.megansmiley.com/webinar-signup-page

 

Risa Weaver-Enion leaves law to become a wedding planner and photographer

Risa Weaver-Enion leaves law to become a wedding planner and photographer

June 1, 2021

Risa Weaver-Enion is the founder and chief planner at Risa James Events, where she both plans weddings and offers product branding photography services. Risa went to law school thinking she’d get into entertainment law, but after her summer internship, quickly realized that there was a lot about actually working at a firm that she didn’t like. After some time in law and quasi-legal positions, a cross-country move proved to be an inflection point that prompted her to go back to the drawing board. She asked herself what she actually wanted to do, and that’s when she decided to start her wedding planning business.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • Risa went to law school 12 years out of college because she was bored
  • She decided she was interested in entertainment law from the IP angle
  • She was counting down the days in her summer associateship, which was the first sign that she didn’t love the work
  • She hated being beholden to other peoples’ timelines and unnecessary fire drills
  • She ultimately took a job in an environmental compliance role in the UC-system
  • When she moved to DC for her husband’s job, she had a hard time finding a legal job
  • Not loving law anyway, she stopped to ask herself what she actually wanted to do
  • She reached out to some local wedding planners and offered to work as an intern
  • She started working as a paralegal part-time to help support her as she built her business
  • Risa has started a product brand photography business as an exit strategy, because weddings can be grueling after a while

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Eimear McCann transitions from immigration and human rights law to a legal tech start-up

Eimear McCann transitions from immigration and human rights law to a legal tech start-up

May 25, 2021

Eimear McCann is the Head of Strategy at Summize, a legal tech company in the UK. Eimear left law school vowing not to practice. But, after a stint of freelance writing, she came back to the law and worked in immigration and human rights. She loved the work, but when her organization lost funding, she decided it was time to move on. She was intrigued by the technology space - it’s innovation, creativity, and flexibility. She followed that interest into legal tech. 

In this episode, we discuss:

  • Eimear originally decided not to practice law after school
  • She was a freelance writer for a few years
  • How particular the structure of the US legal education system is in keeping us trapped
  • Eimear ended up circling back to law, working in immigration and human rights 
  • She had to go back to private practice after her organization’s funding was lost, and she realized just how draining it was
  • At the same time, the immigration work had taken an emotional toll, and Eimear felt it was time to move on  
  • She found herself interested in legal tech because of its environment of innovation and flexibility
  • Breaking into a new field may not be easy, but it’s about reframing your experience
  • Eimear emphasizes importance of finding the kind of work that truly motivates you 

 

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Illegal Design: How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

Illegal Design: How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

May 21, 2021

In today's episode, I talk about how can take an overwhelming project (like eating an elephant or finding a new, fulfilling career) and break it into bite-sized, executable steps. 

You can do hard things. It's just about getting started, strategizing, and taking one step after the other.

 

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Jen Berson leaves litigation to start her own PR agency

Jen Berson leaves litigation to start her own PR agency

May 18, 2021

Jen Berson left civil litigation after she “saw the light”, decided to pursue more creative endeavors, and founded her own business. She is now the President & Founder of Jeneration PR and the creator of the Agency Accelerator, where she teaches entrepreneurs how to launch, grow & scale a profitable PR & marketing agency. Jen talks about listening to and following her inner voice to a career she finds incredibly fulfilling and which allows her to also prioritize being a present parent. 

In this episode, we discuss:

  • Jen had a vague intention to get into entertainment law, and ended up in general litigation
  • Went to a smaller firm, which allowed her more time to explore other interests
  • Jen somewhat randomly reached out to help market a small fragrance business she liked
  • Jen realized she enjoyed work with a tangible result, that had an immediate positive impact on a business
  • She started exploring the various routes within PR, starting by working with a solo firm and then going out on her own
  • She did battle with this idea that she left law because she couldn’t hack it, but she realized it was just a complete personality mismatch
  • Jen wanted to build a life where she loved her work, made good money, and had time for family

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The Top 2 Mistakes Lawyers Make When Trying To Change Careers

The Top 2 Mistakes Lawyers Make When Trying To Change Careers

May 14, 2021

I'm letting you in on the top 2 mistakes I see people make when trying to change careers.

First, they start by asking what job they think they can get, rather than asking what they want.

Second, they don't prioritize themselves and the process of figuring out the next best career step. 

 

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